Hacking The Afterlife podcast

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Steve Jobs, Jesus, Amelia Earhart and Luana Anders

Jennifer is on spring break. 

So in lieu of her being here, I started to look for something that we might have filmed awhile ago, but follows our format. This was our second interview on camera, done in her office in Manhattan Beach on Dec. 21st, 2015.

At the time I was thinking about making these conversations into a documentary. Little did I know that our conversations over lunch, or in her office would become a six year journey together, and a podcast for the past year.

But this follows the same format without the format. In other words, we had spoken to Luana Anders before, but this was before we consider our conversations to be part of a class, or part of a group environment - where she would hold the clipboard and let people come forward to speak (and assist them in being able to do so.)

I think portions of this may have been reproduced in the book "Hacking the Afterlife" - the Jesus portion at least, where she says "I just saw Jesus" and instead of just allowing that to be part of the conversation, to ask him to swing by for a chat. This is also the second time where he shifted into jeans and a tee shirt (he does so in an earlier interview with Jamie Butler (also on this page) and later in an interview with Kimberly Ray (also on this page).

Again - we are improvising here. We have no plan, we have not discussed what we might talk about - but this was five and a half years ago - our second meeting, and just wanted to note how our relationship has not changed. Lots of laughs, some irreverent comments, some challenging questions - Jennifer speaks a little about her process - of how she "sees" or "hears" or visualizes information from the flipside.

I am the gadfly who asks pesky questions. "What does he or she look like?" "Why are they here?"  Steve Jobs stops by - as noted, she did not know that he had shown up in a filmed hypnotherapy session a week earlier with a friend who worked for him. She had said "Bill Gates is here" - and I was so flummoxed I didn't think to ask him what "Oh wow, oh wow, oh wow" meant - the words he said to his sister on his death bed.

Also we get to hear some things that are repeated in later podcasts. But for fans of this research, fans of Jennifer, this is an interesting portrait into an earlier time in our journey.   We did this filmed session as a podcast before podcasts existed... I know when I first listened back to it I thought "I can never use this in a film, since I'm talking to much and you can't see who that is talking..."  Little did I know that five and half years later we'd have spent every week for six years doing these kinds of conversations - "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" book one, two and three.  

Enjoy.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, her dad, my dad and a few others

Had some unusual dreams the past couple of days and used them as a jumping off place for the podcast.   First wanted to know if there was any meaning to find, then wanted to know how to help people contact their loved ones on the other side.

Acknowledging that it's not easy for everyone, it is easier for some - and there are techniques to learn. Meditation helps because it rewires the brain. Allowing that it's possible helps because that appears to be required to actually strike up a conversation.

Jennifer's dad comes through to chat about who greeted him on the other side, and then my father stepped forward to tease me that I'd never asked him. So we did. Mind bending as always.

There's an interview with "Sam the Dog" in the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" and also is referenced in "Architecture of the Afterlife" in the chapter "You don't want to believe it."

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Edgar Cayce, Doris Stokes and a dolphin

Tonight's podcast starts off with a general discussion of staying healthy during Covid.

A recap of the conversation with Dr. Jonas Salk from a year ago where he recommended drinking elderberry, aloe vera and acai juice to prevent Covid (published in April 2020 on RichMartini.com)  Then Edgar Cayce stopped by to talk a bit about his council of doctors who he used to help heal people on the planet, and how they are always accessible to everyone.

Then Luana Anders, our moderator was asked if someone wanted to come forward and Jennifer got an image of the woman, knew who she was but could not get her first name. That's key - because she got it wrong at the beginning... "Mavis" was the name she heard. So I called her Mavis and asked her why she showed up in our class and on our podcast to chat.

She said she wanted to point out that it was much harder than we were making it out to be for people to access their loved ones on the other side, and that might cause some consternation.  And then Jennifer looked up her name and recognized it - the famous medium Doris Stokes (who died in 1987). 

I hadn't heard of her - obviously as I asked her why she came by to chat with us, or if she just wanted to criticize our podcast... obviously if Jennifer knew who she was up front, she would have said her name "Doris" and not "Mavis." And obviously if I knew she was going to come by I would have done a little research to ask her questions.

I see from her Wikipedia entry that fans of the Amazing Randi spent time discrediting her - all I can say about that is we talked to Randi, the podcast with Randi is up on MartiniZone.com and anyone can hear Randi apologize for being such a tool of the skeptics of the world.  Like Houdini debunking many shady psychics in his day - he too is quoted (in "Backstage Pass to the Flipside") that his impression of the flipside changed once he got there.

All we can do is report.  Finally, we have a chat with a dolphin - no request came to do so, but I had a compelling email from a woman on Quora whose life has changed since her swimming with them, and she felt like she was "home" when she did so.  It would take a few conversations with someone like this dolphin to get to a consensus about what he was saying - that they're much wiser, older and more sane than humans.  But I suspect we always knew that anyway. 

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Jim, Elvis and Luana

This is an exploration into incarnation.   Not in reincarnation - but the process of incarnation. How does it occur? We have a chat with Jennifer's father, a Mormon Bishop on the flipside. He discusses the process of a "drop of light" coming to incarnate in the guise of a human.

When asked if anyone else wanted to speak on the topic, Elvis came forward to observe that music is the same kind of frequency that the drop of essence is described as - another bit of the overall light that is part of incarnation.

A discussion of past lives ensues - and how everyone brings an amalgamation of all their lives to the current lifetime, which may include music, art and other energies.  It sounds esoteric and it is - but it is based on the flipside research.  Thanks for tuning in.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Federico Fellini, Giulietta, Marcello, Fiametta

I had the impression that the great director Federico Fellini stopped by my place a few days ago - so I invited him to come by our class.

 I had studied his films in college, and later when living in Rome there were sightings of him all over the city. Later, I met a number of people who worked with him, including the Roman actress Fiametta Baralla, the aunt of a fellow film school student Luca Bentivoglio.  I got to know Fiametta well, and her dog Romeo who was famous in her home town of Roma.

As a result, I felt fairly confident that we could chat with Fellini, because Fiametta knew him, worked with him - and I am a fan of his work, his wife's work - Giulietta Masini - and her work with Anthony Quinn. Some years later I worked with one of his sons Francesco. Once Francesco told me that his dad loved our film "Cannes Man." (For the record, Anthony Quinn was Mexican American as he mentions)

So this is a Italian celebrity filled session - Marcello Mastroianni stops by as well... which would be incredible to any fan of Italian cinema, but for many - like Jennifer, they are only vaguely familiar with these icons.  The discussion is fun and lively - given on March 11th, the day before my birthday. My birthday gift to myself was to have the amazing Jennifer Shaffer access people that I knew about and wished I might one day meet - and they report things that only those on the flipside could know

For example - I asked Fiametta if she was "met by Romeo" on the flipside - and no one on the planet but me knows that Romeo was a poodle - and the most famous poodle in Trastevere at one point. That fact alone - that she said "Is Romeo a dog?" demonstrates her abilities in this field.  Having done this with her for six years, I can't believe how fortunate I am to be able to do so.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer and Ian Stevenson

Another unusual podcast.   In this instance, I had a thought to invite Ian Stevenson, the renowned professor and psychiatrist to our podcast.  I had a specific reason - because there's a phrase he left behind, that he thought - like Harry Houdini - he could "communicate" to someone on the other side.

In doing these podcasts with Jennifer, on occasion we get to "prove" that the flipside exits. We did so in the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" where my old pal Bill Paxton showed up to report things from the flipside that only I could know or that he knew. (And I had two others do the same, and that's in the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia).

In this case, I wanted to ask him some questions about his life and journey. He spent three decades flying around the world studying reincarnation while at UVA, and founded The Dept of Perceptual Studies at UVA with a grant from the founder of Xerox.

I had met members of DOPS in 2011 after Flipside came out and I was on my way to speak at an IANDS venue in Virginia Beach. (At the time, I didn't know that Dr. Greyson was a founder of Iands or that DOPS was involved.)  But I met with Dr. Greyson, Dr. Tucker, Ed and Emily Kelly PhD at their offices and we discussed why Ian Stevenson felt hypnosis (as reported in "Flipside") wasn't a valid tool of science (due to bias.)  However, as I pointed out, that didn't explain why people across the globe were reporting the same hallmarks while under hypnosis - hallmarks contrary to their stated belief systems. (As per the Newton Institute findings, and later, as per the research from clinical psychologist Dr. Helen Wambach who got the same results a decade earlier.)

But this podcast isn't a dialectic on the research - I wanted to know a specific phrase that he left behind. Jennifer didn't know anything about Ian, although she notes at the beginning she was listening to Dr. Greyson's book on his NDE research "After."

We then broke down what Ian was telling us in visual images - I edited out the actual "answer" - (which is very specific) - because I'm going to pass it along to the folks I know who knew him, and see if that is accurate. If it is not accurate, or Jennifer's interpretation isn't accurate, or my interpretation of what she was seeing is wrong - I will report that, and as noted, I have a couple of other mediums who can weigh in.  If what he reports is the "secret phrase" is accurate, I will report that in a future podcast.

But in general, what Ian Stevenson has to say in this podcast is in line with everything else we've heard - and is mind bending as well. Enjoy.

Hacking the Afterlife with Larry King and Lady Gagas Dogs

As promised, we asked Larry King to return this week.

Luana Anders our friend on the flipside, helped facilitate the conversation. We asked him to talk about his life and journey - growing up in Brooklyn and then heading down to Miami.

He talks about his mother and father, and who was there to greet him on the other side. He talked about some of the people that he knew in life, that are different when they get back home. He mentions Bernie Madoff - who stole 2.8 million from him life, but "isn't a thief on the flipside." This is something often reported - that people behave a certain way on the planet, their higher self isn't the same way.

He was sporting his favorite Dodger's cap (Jennifer didn't know he was a Dodgers fan). He said that he met with his children when he crossed over, Any and Chaia.  He had messages for Larry Jr as well as his kids Chance and Cannon. He made a number of comic comments about his wives - and Jennifer correctly heard him say he had been married 8 times (to 7 different women.) 

In the last portion of the show, we spoke about the recent tragic events where Lady Gaga's dog walker was attacked and two of her dogs were taken. Jennifer saw things a bit differently - she said that she felt the dognapping was financed by someone who "wanted to hurt her."  That the people who did the theft changed cars and put the dogs - what seemed to be at sea - as she felt them being on the water.  She sensed they were near Santa Barbara in a boat - either named "Princess" or "Prince" or that belonged to someone with that name.  

Again, she felt that it was a Russian person who had a bone to pick with Lady Gaga and paid for the dognapping to happen.

Jennifer works with law enforcement on missing person cases. She's been helpful to Bill Bratton former NYPD commissioner as well as other agents in the U.S.  She's part of a consortium of mediums who help law enforcement pro bono to help them in their work.  Information is always subject to misinterpretation - and other issues. But in the hopes that they can track down whomever took the dogs, she offered to help in this small fashion.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer and Luana Anders and Larry King

Larry stopped by for the last ten minutes.

He suggested we hold off on interviewing him. I asked a couple of questions to see what he'd say. We'll talk to him soon.

Meanwhile we had a general discussion to help people to access their loved ones on the other side. 

Larry stopped by for the last ten minutes. He suggested we hold off on interviewing him. I asked a couple of questions to see what he'd say. We'll talk to him soon.

Meanwhile we had a general discussion to help people to access their loved ones on the other side.

At the top of the show, I ask Jennifer about two folks I've not met - Tyler and Alysha.  In yet another demonstration of her ability to connect to the flipside, Jennifer mentions a number of things about Alysha, who is no longer on the planet. I had no clue how accurate that was until this morning.

This email came from Tyler: 

"Just thought I'd share some of the validations with you. 

- Her scent: Jennifer had it immediately correct concerning me retaining her most prominent clothing in vacuum-sealed bags in the effort of scent preservation

- Jewelry/necklace with beads: She has a string lapis lazuli bracelet I got for her I have displayed on her shrine. (Naturally it is implied her ring is there as well!)

- "Scrapbook": This was the one, an emotional whirlwind. I have had the plan(that any attempt at concealing from her in the effort of surprise is futile, haha) of compiling all video footage and special moment photos into a video. It is going to be played with a cover to "The Wonder of You" by Elvis. Thought you'd find that humorous, given the podcast's previous guest list!

It goes without the need for confirmation that I feel things heavily, as Jennifer mentioned. This circumstance has destroyed me, so to speak -- hence the need to listen in my own time. Your graciousness in this exchange is returned with my undying appreciation..."

Glad to be of help  Tyler.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer and Amelia Earhart

For people who are aware of how Jennifer and I met, there is an extended three hour interview with Amelia Earhart about her life, her journey in the book "Hacking the Afterlife." 

We were in the midst of answering questions from viewers (who ask them via Martinizone.com on YouTube, or email at MartiniProds at gmail) when I asked our friend Luana Anders, moderator of our group, if there was anyone that we needed to speak with.

Amelia showed up to give me some encouragement.  Literally to "not give up" on telling her story, which is an amazing story.  There's a brief mention of it in this interview, as well as a reference to a website I built after my trip to Saipan (EarhartOnSaipan.com) 

As I've said before, and will repeat again, I'm not interested in arguing theory, beliefs or opinion when it comes to research. There are over 200 eyewitnesses that saw her after she "disappeared" - I've interviewed or gathered information on dozens who saw her on Saipan, saw her incarcerated, didn't know who she was at the time, but learned later on.

I have eyewitnesses (15 new ones) from Saipan, as well as a dozen GI's who found her plane, found her briefcase, found her passport on Saipan.  These fellows are on camera and got a lifetime of annoying dismissal from friends and family about what they saw - US Marines called "liars" by people who believe they didn't see what they saw or didn't report what they reported.

Again - not rehashing theories. I have always focused on eyewitness reports and following them up to see if they could be corroborated, or that the could be proven to be accurate.  Then about ten years ago, I realized I had one medium approach me not knowing anything about my research and told me specific details.

A few years later, I supplied the questions via another medium - as noted in this podcast. And then, I interviewed her for three hours via Jennifer Shaffer - and that transcript is in the book "Hacking the Afterlife."  I'm sure people have strong opinions about what happened to her - I'm just stating clearly that none of this is opinion, theory or belief. I'm reporting. Consistent reports that have been corroborated by eyewitnesses.

And when I say that "People think they know her story, but they don't know her story" - I'm not exaggerating.  They do not know her story and I hope one day to tell it.

Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer and her friend Chef Denise

Jennifer lost a friend a few days ago, and we took the opportunity to chat with her about her journey and path. 

We also took some questions from the audience, encouraged to submit them to MartiniProds at gmail - not to take requests for readings, but questions about process that someone on the flipside might be able to answer.

Today's question was "How do emotions such as love or grief affect frequency and communication with loved ones on the other side?"

Thanks for tuning in.