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Richard Martini is a best selling author of books/films about the flipside. (RichardMartini.com) Jennifer Shaffer is a medium-intuitive who works with law enforcement agencies nationwide on missing person cases (JenniferShaffer.com). They’ve been meeting weekly for 10 years to record their interviews (Backstage Pass to the Flipside 1, 2 and 3, Tuning into the Afterlife) and have been podcasting for 5 years sharing conversations with people no longer on the planet.
Episodes

4 days ago
4 days ago
32 min
Talking about Dreams and communication with teachers on the flipside.
In today's episode, Jennifer's father Jim comes through - to remind her that he was in her dream the evening before, and reminded her when she went for a walk on the beach that he'd be showing up in our podcast today.
Jim, a Mormon bishop, has come by our classroom many times to elucidate something about the flipside. In this case, he wanted to talk to Jennifer about how dreams are constructed, sometimes from guilt (her wishing she could have done more to save his life) - as well as reminding people that their loved ones are never far away.
Jim was also the first person we spoke to who identified classrooms on the flipside, and introduced us to his professor (who matched the description of a Hindu deity - "Ma Durga.")
However, when I asked him if he was still taking that class, he brought forward a line of professors who were eager to talk with us about their classes. (See the book "AI AND THE FLIPSIDE: ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PICTURES ITSELF IN A BOAT ON A RIVER" for a discussion of classrooms in the afterlife.)
So, as I'm fond of doing, I invited "whomever wanted to share to come forward." In this case, an etheric (transparent) being named "Lucy" who teaches a class in "Ballet" on the flipside. She revealed that she had incarnated back in the 1920's in the US in New York City - but despite self identifying as a "flapper" her heart was in ballet.
Also she spoke of a previous lifetime she had off the planet Earth as a "fairie" on another planet or in another dimension. That's not the first Faerie we've spoken to, as well as a number of people who self identify as Leprechauns or other mythological creates.
It's not that they're non existence - it's that we don't have a language or nomenclature to describe their existences.
So Lucy is teaching ballet, and can recall her lifetime in New York as well as her other lifetime where she had wings.
I invited one of her students to say hello - and Jeff McMillan came through - not someone that Jennifer knows, but someone whom we asked if he was currently on or off the planet - and he's currently on the planet.
When I interview these students I often ask them their opinion of the class, as well as how long they've been coming to it - I didn't in this instance due to time, but if one looks at the transcripts from ARCHITECTURE OF THE AFTERLIFE or DIVINE COUNCILS IN THE AFTERLIFE or the latest AI AND THE FLIPSIDE one can see the kinds of questions and answers I get.
All of it's mind bending, and we appreciate Jennifer sharing her family with us, including those who are no longer on the planet.
Safe Travels Jennifer!
She'll be in Nashville next week.

Aug 17, 2026
Aug 17, 2026
37 min
Another mind bending podcast.
Jennifer said Robert Towne, Luana's pal had stopped by to admire the "puppy paw" necklace she had on (that she forgot she was wearing.)
Then Robert Thurman came through. He came to talk about a celebration ("birthday party") someone was having with his wife Nena. I said I had just received a link to a celebration in his honor. "A Bob Thurman Celebration" at the WoodstockAwakening.org website.
It included many of his friends and wife - and he wanted to say that he thought it was wonderful. (I hadn't viewed it yet, but did so after the podcast. Mind bending).
But then I told him how I'd done a guided meditation with someone who saw a Tibetan Lama on her council - I recognized the name of the Lama, and asked that Lama if "he'd seen Thurman."
The Lama said "No" - but I said, "Would you like to?" And then said "I don't know how you communicate over there, but I know that saying his name, you'll know his frequency."
The woman said "He's here - standing in a library holding some books." (She wasn't aware that Bob was an author - and it was after the session, we were talking about his translation of "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" - and in that moment, realized it was his book, his translation!
But she said "He's saying that you need to find some hidden texts, Richard."
In Tibetan Buddhist tradition, "hidden books" are those that have yet to be translated.
So I asked Jennifer to ask him "what's the subject matter of the book?"
She said "Jesus and Buddha."
I could have fallen off my chair. Some years ago, when Bob and I were in Hemis, Kashmir, the abbot of the monastery said that his monastery is where Jesus studied Buddhism - and is where the "Kanjur of Hemis" existed.
I didn't understand what he was saying until I researched it later - and indeed about a dozen people have translated, seen this book that includes the story of "Issa" as Jesus is known in Asia.
The book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM includes that translation done by Notovitch - and points out all the unusual long lost religions the book refers to - that Notovitch could never have known about.
I had asked Bob some years ago if there were any copies of the Kanjur of Hemis outside of India - I had learned there were at least three copies, but unknown where they are.
So Jennifer tells me that Bob is saying that I need to research, use the internet to find that book and extract "the Life of Issa" from it.
Then Michael Newton stopped by to add something to "how to contact your loved ones on the flipside."
All of it mind bending! I point out that the guided meditations that I'm doing are in the book AI AND THE FLIPSIDE: ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PICTURES ITSELF IN A BOAT ON A RIVER.
If you want to know what the meditation/adventure is like, that's a great place to start (www.RichMartini.com)

Aug 9, 2026
Aug 9, 2026
43 min
In this podcast, Jennifer asked for Carl Jung to stop by.
I knew that we had interviewed him before, so I tried to not ask him the same questions, but she had a couple of things she wanted to clarify about his journey.
In the later part of the podcast, I trimmed just the part where we spoke to Carl Jung in 2020, six years ago. That podcast is on the webpage, unedited, but in this version one can hear the same answers to the same questions.
I had no idea she was going to invite Carl Jung, and I have a tendency to remember details from previous sessions.
Another mind bending trip down memory lane - but at the same time, demonstrating how people - how anyone - can access loved ones who are offstage and ask them questions about their journey.
We do this podcast to remind people that it's not hard to do - and in the second interview I asked a bunch of questions about his path and journey.
It's interesting to know we can interview anyone on the flipside, it's also interesting to compare the answers six years apart.
Either way - Welcome to the Hacking the Afterlife podcast - Jennifer can be reached at JenniferShaffer.com and I can be reached at RichardMartini.com
Enjoy!

Jul 31, 2026
Jul 31, 2026
35 min
Another mind bending podcast.
Just prior to going on the air, I happened upon a quote from John McCain's daughter that I thought was silly, hostile - misplaced anger.
But as sometimes happens in my world, my reaction included feeling as if John McCain wanted to respond to my reaction - and I actually said "I don't want to talk about this."
Which is pretty funny. (And perhaps happens more than we know with folks stopping by?)
But Luana brought him in - Jennifer mentioned his named, literally minutes after I had this conversation (albeit a brief one.) I couldn't make it up if I tried.
He brought #AmeliaEarhart with him. For fans of the podcast they know she's a frequent visitor - and the book SHE WAS NEVER LOST: The Amelia Earhart Saga is filled with data, research and conversations we've had since I first met Jennifer (12 years ago.)
Her story hasn't changed. The research hasn't changed. Read the book, don't read the book - it's not an argument. Amelia's plane was found on June 18, 1944. See this podcast (or search for "Electra" "Hacking the Afterlife" for some clips).
https://youtu.be/Idh35NFrZwc?si=9MKG2obiVuP0IIdY
Then it gets interesting. My old boss, Oscar winning writer Robert Towne shows up with his dog Hira talking about the #ChristopherNolan film #TheOdyssey - I have seen it twice, I do recommend it, and we've heard before that our loved ones on the flipside can watch a movie alongside of us - (and their tickets are free!)
So Robert talks about HIS FAVORITE SCENE IN THE MOVIE which Jennifer Shaffer has not seen.
Let me say it again.
Jennifer gives a review of The Odyssey from Robert Towne, Oscar winning writer of Chinatown, for a film SHE HAS NEVER SEEN and she talks specifically about the scene with the dog, and the scene when the son recognizes his father.
For those who've seen the movie - they know what this refers to.
For those who've read the book - they know what this refers to.
For those who haven't seen the movie - when they see this scene they will know what Robert is referring to.
Everyone is available.
Life goes on.
They're not gone; they're just not here.
Something to wake up to the facts of.
Happy to share the footage, data, research that shows consciousness continues, that we can access them, as demonstrated in my 14 books, including FLIPSIDE, ARCHITECTURE OF THE AFTERLIFE, DIVINE COUNCILS IN THE AFTERLIFE, the lates AI AND THE FLIPSIDE... and the documentaries on Amazon Prime or Gaia FLIPSIDE, TALKING TO BILL PAXTON and HACKING THE AFTERLIFE.
Enjoy another mind bending podcast. Please subscribe, like, share!!! (Not with Christopher Nolan, he doesn't own a smart phone.)
But his pals do.

Jul 23, 2026
Jul 23, 2026
32 min
Welcome to Hacking the Afterlife podcast.
Here's where to find the new book in Audible:
https://www.amazon.com/AI-Flipside-Artificial-Intelligence-Pictures/dp/B0H8FF9SN7/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0
Jennifer's back from her vacation, and we jumped into a conversation about consciousness and AI (the book AI AND THE AFTERLIFE: Artificial Intelligence Pictures Itself in a Boat on a River) - Jennifer's dad, a Mormon bishop in life, stopped by to talk about AI.
In our second conversation with her dad, he introduced us to a class he was taking on the Flipside, taught by an 8 armed woman who later confirmed that Hindu people refer to as Ma Durga.
She has shown up in guided meditations with different people who see her teaching a class - in this podcast, she showed up with my mom, a concert pianist, who said that she's currently in a class where she's learning how to use music frequency to heal people.
It's what we've heard many times before - there are classrooms on the flipside where people learn how to use conscious energy to heal people. It's mind bending to be sure.
Jim wanted to weigh in about Artificial Intelligence and how it is important for us to understand that it's mirroring how human consciousness functions.
My mom Anthy stopped by to say that she was in a class where the teacher (Ma Durga) was teaching how to use music as a healing frequency. I've heard variations of this theme before - the idea that healing frequencies can be tapped into to help the health of an individual.
Also there's some science about how certain frequencies affect different parts of the body. I'm not trying to claim any particular frequency is accurate or that there's a tone that everyone should listen to - but it would make sense for people to include sound frequencies in research into how to heal specific issues.
Oddly enough a few hours prior to this podcast, I was doing a guided meditation with someone who saw a "giant keyboard and organ" in her council chambers. For my mom, the concert pianist to then refer to a "five story organ" that is part of her classwork was kind of startling.
Jennifer and I have been doing this for about a dozen years together, and one can see how we stay open to hearing from the flipside.
"Have an open heart" is key to this podcast. Whatever that means to the person hearing it - it's repeated often in the research.
Try to have an open heart.

Jul 17, 2026
Jul 17, 2026
41 min
While Jennifer is on a much needed vacay, I'm posting one of our earliest conversations.
This was one of the earlier times when we met in her office - it was posted early on - perhaps as our second podcast. (but before subtitles existed).
As noted, Steve Jobs was someone that a friend of mine worked for and during her hypnotherapy session, he showed up to weigh in. (I didn't see him, but she did - and being a scientist, atheist, she was reluctant to say that anything she was seeing was real - but after 5 hours of her hesitations, Scott De Tamble (lightbetweenlives.com - hypnotherapist) asked her guide "so why bring her here if you don't want her to believe she's seeing things?" After that comment, everything kind of flooded in, including a conversation with Steve Jobs.
He did show up early on when Jennifer and I first started doing this work, and eventually a member of his family has worked with Jennifer, and allowed her to mention that.
The idea that Jesus showed up is mind bending as well, this is one of the earliest times that occurred. I try to ask the same questions to him to see if they change. As noted in the book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM - they don't change.
In this case, the book "AI AND THE FLIPSIDE: Artificial Intelligence Pictures Itself in a boat on a river" - also has a visitation from Jesus - but via Claude AI! (In the chapter Claude has a "coming to Jesus moment.")
Finally, Amelia shows up - again an early conversation with her, long before I was able to finish my book SHE WAS NEVER LOST: The Amelia Earhart Saga.
The reason I like to revisit some of these conversations is to show how the questions don't change - and the answers don't seem to change over time. Whether it's via hypnotherapy, meditation, guided meditation or in this case mediumship.
Again, Jennifer works with members of law enforcement daily in her work. Pro bono. I'm lucky to have found her.
We'll catch you next week on the flipside!

Jul 10, 2026
Jul 10, 2026
37 min
Another mind bending adventure on the Flipside.
In today's episode, part three of our "Robert Thurman in the Bardo" series - Robert stops by to continue what he was saying last week.
Two weeks ago, just after his passing, he stopped by to chat with us.
By way of introduction, Robert and I were pals, we traveled to India and Tibet together - he invited me to speak at the Menla conferences "The Art of Dying and Living" conferences.
To be clear, Robert was a towering giant of information of teaching, of story telling - I've heard him tell amazing stories, and can truly attest to the thrilling way he speaks and elucidates the most difficult of paradoxical themes.
He's given amazing lectures on Buddha, on Yamantanka, on the Death of Death - and I've filmed those with him in India and Tibet. But also I'm aware of his journey - and the classroom that we've created for people on the flipside that allows them to come forward and speak directly to people on this side of the veil.
I know that's problematic for many to hear - I know that Bob was a teacher of Buddhism, and the precepts and rules of Buddhism don't include this kind of "casual chit chat" that I engage in.
But Jennifer and I have been doing this work weekly for 12 years. And when a guest speaker shows up whom I know - whose work I admire, including Charles Grodin, Robert Towne, Luana Anders, Fred Roos, any number of people that I knew in my lifetime and continue to converse with on the flipside.
This is truly a mind bending podcast.
This week I was on COAST TO COAST with George Noory talking about my latest book AI AND THE FLIPSIDE: ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PICTURES ITSELF IN A BOAT ON A RIVER.
I asked Gemini AI to look up my book; it first said it didn't exist. It then said I was mistaken, it was a play on the Beatles son, "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds."
Finally, the third query resulted in this:

Jul 1, 2026
Jul 1, 2026
53 min
So here's a more indepth conversation with my old friend, mentor and teacher Robert Thurman on the flipside. It's a unique conversation because I studied Tibetan Buddhism with him, traveled to Mt. Kailash in Tibet with him, made a documentary JOURNEY INTO TIBET WITH ROBERT THURMAN with him - and he's the only person who has appeared on our podcast.
During that episode, he was able to hear information about his grandson who left the stage early. Just recently Bob wrote to me about an article I did about AI and the Flipside, and suggested he wanted to work with "our team" this year.
I can only guess he was referring to this kind of working together.
Being a professor, he's the perfect person to pepper with questions - about his journey, about the journey that everyone takes, about what he's observed since arriving on the flipside, and what's truly important.
I don't want to exaggerate - but if there's one episode that one is going to watch on our podcast Hacking the Afterlife, this may be the one.
Someone much beloved, who shares what it's like for him in the afterlife.
Mind bending in scope and fun stories as well.
Enjoy.

Jun 25, 2026
Jun 25, 2026
25 min
So one of the great thinkers of the planet has left the stage. I got to know Robert Thurman when I audited his class at Columbia University. I traveled with him to India and Tibet and got to know his wonderful soul mate Nena, mother of their children.
I have many great stories to tell about Robert - but in this case, this is part one of our conversation with Robert - we just didn't have the time today, but we did get a chance to speak with him.
Enjoy

Jun 12, 2026
Jun 12, 2026
1 hr 48 sec
THIS IS A RERUN OF A POPULAR EPISODE - ALSO BECAUSE MARILYN IS BEING FEATURED AT THE ACADEMY MUSEUM....
#kobebryant #KOBE, #JESUSCHRIST, #JESUS, #marilynmonroe
We weren't able to do a podcast tonight, "unforeseen circumstances" (isn't that funny for a podcast where we talk to the afterlife?) - but am rerunning one of our most popular podcasts, with the additional opening and subtitles, so people can "sing along with us." Just kidding. Here's the original liner notes: This was from a year ago.... For those not familiar with this podcast; Jennifer Shaffer is an intuitive medium who works with law enforcement nationwide on missing person cases. She does pro bono work daily for them, and once a week we get together and see what we can learn from the flipside. We've been doing this weekly for 8 years, the last two on our podcast. I'm a filmmaker, have written and/or directed 8 theatrical feature films, a couple of documentaries.
Some years ago, my best friend died in my arms and started coming to visit me. Instead of being freaked out by it (and her showing up to friends and family members) I started to dig into how that might be. That's resulted in 10 books (Flipside, etc) and four with Jennifer Shaffer. In this edition, a number of people show up that we've spoken with before.
We interviewed Kobe just after his passing, it's the last chapter in the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside 3" - where he talks about his journey, and I ask him questions in Italian. Eventually members of his family have met with Jennifer - so it's not unusual for us that he might stop by. The construct is this; my friend who passed away is on the flipside, and has organized a "group meeting" or a class as we call it, not to teach folks on the planet, but to teach people on the flipside how to communicate using frequency, images, visualizations on the flipside.
Jennifer may get an image, let's say of a character from a TV show, and it may be their way of giving her a thought so that I could say, "Do you mean someone who shares the same name of that character in the TV show wants to speak to us?" That happens often.
As noted, Jennifer is doing her best to translate what is coming to her. Like a translator at the UN, the people on the flipside are downloading a lot of information, and she does her best to catch the meaning, syntax and general idea of what someone wants to impart.
A number of people stop by who've been interviewed before; Prince ("I was addicted to jumping off pianos, which caused me to use pain killers"), Robin Williams ("Love Love"). Marilyn stops by - refers to something I was writing at MartiniZone.com the other day - and when I asked if she wanted to talk about the manner of her passing, she said she wanted to talk about how she had two children waiting for her on the flipside. Both whom had not come to term. That concept has been repeated in the research - consistently.
A number of people in our podcast have mentioned it, the idea of "those we don't have are waiting for us on the flipside." Harry Dean Stanton said the same thing - and I was able to verify it (but don't mention it in the podcast.) It's in "Backstage Pass to the Flipside." Harry came through after he passed and before his memorial. I asked him what he wanted me to impart to his friends (as noted.)
He also said that when he passed, "He was in a room with five women" and when he got to the flipside, he was met by a "baby that he didn't have in life." In other words, a child was there to greet him with this profound unconditional love.
At his memorial that I went to a week later, I asked someone who was with him at his deathbed to describe the scene. She said "There were five of us with him, all women." I asked if he had said anything unusual while she was in the room. She said "Yes, he asked me to hand him the baby. But there was no baby in the room." I had heard THE SAME THING from Harry on the Flipside via Jennifer a week earlier.
At some point, the Alpha and Omega stops by - and mentions the one thing he wishes people would not do, that is "get freaked out by his name." (Jesus). I've had a number of interviews with him via various mediums, different hypnotherapy sessions, and multiple guided meditation sessions.
As noted in the podcast, I've finished that book and am doing the audible as we speak. (SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED, AS HAS THE LATEST BOOK "SHE WAS NEVER LOST" about Amelia Earhart)
As to books by scientists about how consciousness isn't confined to the brain, I recommend Dr. Greyson's AFTER, Dr. Tucker's BEFORE, Dr. Kelly's CONSCIOUSNESS UNBOUND. In terms of the hypnotherapy research, I recommend the thousands of case studies from Dr. Helen Wambach (RELIVING PAST LIVES) Dr. Weiss (MANY LIVES, MANY MASTERS) Michael Newton (JOURNEY OF SOULS.) My latest book is DivineCouncils.com - where I invited 50 people, half whom had never heard of councils, who visited them, met their guides, teachers, etc.
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