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Richard Martini is a best selling author (Kindle in their genre) about books about the flipside. Jennifer Shaffer is a medium-intuitive who works with law enforcement agencies nationwide on missing person cases (JenniferShaffer.com). They’ve been meeting weekly for 8 years to record their interviews (Backstage Pass to the Flipside 1, 2 and 3, Tuning into the Afterlife) and have been podcasting for two years about conversations with people no longer on the planet.
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4 days ago
4 days ago
Another mind bending foray into the Flipside.
First reminding the audience Jennifer and I will be appearing at the Contact In the Desert conference May 30th at 11 am, then Saturday May 31st at 11 am (ContactInTheDesert.com)
Today's podcast included a visit from the actor Eddie Hassell who pointed out that he'd turned the lights on and off at his parent's home in order to get them to reach out to Jennifer. As it turned out, Steve Jobs was involved in this conversation as well.
Luana Anders wanted to discuss how people on the flipside manipulate energy - turning lights on and off, related to the power going out in a recent guided meditation, where at a particular point, it seemed as if someone on the flipside had frozen the internet.
I asked Hawking some of the same questions we'd asked him before, as well as to have him talk about how it's possible for him to be aware of all of his previous lifetimes now, but at the same time access information that is related to his most previous journey onstage.
Jennifer noted that the acclaimed film critics both Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel had shown up - I had met Roger when he was on the planet, and also noted how their review of my film "Limit Up" got it pulled from movie theaters when it came out.
It wasn't until later, when I learned about Ebert's own near death experience that he didn't believe in an afterlife - even though he'd literally "spoken to his wife to tell her to convince the doctors he was still alive" - even after that, he wouldn't allow that it was possible that consciousness continued on.
So for whatever reason (they said it was an anniversary, although I'm not sure its related to the film Limit Up's reviews) they showed up to give us a "thumbs up" for our podcast and our continued conversations with the flipside.
This isn't the sort of thing one might construct - since Jennifer saw all three of them appear at once, and it wasn't until after the conversation with Hawking did I ask them why they'd appeared. Funny to consider. I also got them to review Sean Baker's film "Anora." (How about that? I defy any clip service to add their reviews "brilliant" to their publicity files "from the flipside")
Then Jennifer's dad Jim showed up to answer a question she'd had about her mother's appearances in her dreams - and a general discussion of how it's important for people to allow that it's possible for their loved ones to still exist - because even during dreams if we say to them "wait a second, you died" it's a form of denial of their existence and they "disappear" from our ability to see them.
Just something to keep in mind if one is visited by a loved one, by lights turning on and off, by the coincidence of seeing numbers on a clock, or hearing a song and then thinking of them at the very moment they want us to... allow that it's possible, and it won't freak people out so much.
Hawking also weighed in the recent reports of "possible life on another planet" ("Why not begin with every other planet?") It's ironic because we haven't begun to understand the different frequencies of species on our own planet yet... dogs smell cancer, bees see UV light, birds change mating habits months in advance of bad weather, octopuses do more with 8 brains in one year of life than we do with 1 brain over 80 years... something to consider when talking about "life on other planets." (What about lives we've yet to understand on our own?)

Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Another mind bending podcast.
Jennifer had one of her "uncorked" events in Manhattan Beach this past week, and one of the attendees wanted to speak to her pet hamster who had passed away.
Jennifer recounts doing that as well as talking to a "tree" in their yard that was ill and about to pass away. We've had multiple conversations both with animals, and with trees (look for "General Sherman" on the podcast.
But we've also had a conversation with a dolphin before. (Look for "Edgar Cayce, Doris Stokes and a dolphin" on the podcast.
In this one, Luana Anders, my pal on the flipside who passed in 1996 brought forth a dolphin who wanted to speak with us.
The construct is this - the dolphin isn't "sitting in our interview chair" but she's able to communicate directly with Jennifer.
And since we've interviewed animals before, I try to ask the same questions I ask everyone that shows up in the research.
In this case, Luana gave her the name "Samantha" (which could have been a play on my dog Sam that I've spoken to in the past, I don't know, that's Luana's sense of humor.)
And Samantha said a number of mind bending things... that only 5% of her conscious energy is outside herself, "the higher consciousness" that is addressing us directly. Generally people report we bring between 20 and 40% of our conscious energy to a lifetime, and that when we have brain issues (dementia, etc) we only have around ten percent or less of our conscious energy.
If I was hearing this correctly, Samantha was saying "only 5% of her conscious energy is offstage" - because dolphin don't have the same filters we do.
In terms of what was heard or learned; the dolphin consider themselves the "sheriffs" of the sea, as well as the librarians collecting data. That they are aware of everything going on in the ocean.
I asked a simple question about Samantha's opinion of humans - she pointed out that a human had saved her mother's life in a previous lifetime (as a shark) and that she appreciate that aspect of humanity.
I asked a question about empathy - since a certain person in high places said some comment about "empathy holding back civilization" - and the dolphin replied that "empathy is the only thing that moves civilization forward."
Empathy to help others, to heal others, to find a cure for cancer, illness, etc. It's a mind bending answer, but it's a mind bending comment for someone to make - who clearly has no clue how consciousness functions or incarnation works.
Samantha reiterated that "animals understand how incarnation works but humans do not." There are many things humans don't get - in terms of other dimensions, and Samantha said she and others kept tabs on that - including those stories of "UAP's (UFO's)" that shift in and out of the water.
I know all of this is mind bending - and it's a perfect reason to stop watching the podcast. If one is having a hard time comprehending this information, perhaps a good time to look into the data, research from UVA medical school DOPS lab that shows consciousness is not confined to the brain.
Or to examine the clinical case studies of Dr. Wambach, Dr. Brian Weiss or Michael Newton and the Newton Institute in terms of how people can recall previous lifetimes, or how their own incarnations have worked.
Truly one of the most mind bending podcasts we've done - and I'm shocked to say it was only 30 minutes of questions and answers.
Hope people take this opportunity to research the topic - because we're touching the tip of the iceberg - literally.
We don't understand how animals or plants communicate - but we can learn. And this is a way to ask them questions and get answers.

Friday Apr 04, 2025
Friday Apr 04, 2025
Today's podcast got crowded!
We started off by talking about Jennifer's recent visit to the Oprah studios where she participated in a discussion about menopause and at some point Oprah made her way to Jennifer and put her around her and said "thank you."
She was referring to a session that Jennifer had done with a friend of Oprah's and the kinds of unusual details that Jennifer was able to access to help this friend on her journey.
Then I spoke about a dinner in a restaurant recently, where someone named Daniel spoke to someone at our table (more on him if he shows up) but when I asked Luana if Daniel wanted to speak to us, someone else took the speaker's chair.
In this case, the late young actor Tyler Sanders. Tyler had written on his arm, "Do More" and he lived that motto. He took his father skydiving, did not pass up any adventure that he might have been on. Much beloved by his family, friends, and although we knew him for a short amount of time, he made a large impact on our lives.
He passed a few years ago, just prior to a major advance in his career, by experimenting with a drug that he thought was something else, but turned out to be laced with fentanyl.
When I heard that he passed, I was traveling with a friend who was a medium, and she described what she saw about his passing - and a few minutes later had Jennifer on the phone and she was telling me the same details.
It's unusual to be in such an odd position - to have friends who are mediums, who can access "what happened" almost in real time.
So when Jennifer mentioned that he was in our class, she had spoken with him briefly three years ago. He wanted to raise the topic of "sudden passing" and as he did so, other people started showing up, Heath Ledger, Paul Walker and Matthew Perry.
Now, for those who may be offended at the "number of celebrities" who show up on our podcast, I try to remind people that we aren't in charge of the guest list. It's Luana Anders, who appeared in over 300 TV shows and films in her life, who worked with everyone from Marlon Brando to John Belushi... so it's not unusual to have a "celebrity packed" classroom, because in the rubric of "everyone is six degrees from Kevin Bacon" (Meaning we're all connected to each other if we look for the connections) sometimes a whole gaggle of people show up about a particular topic.
I invited Paul to speak as I know we had a brief chat with him after his passing, and we did a couple of interview with Matthew Perry, so I focused on Heath Ledger and asked him about his journey.
Who met him on the other side, what that was like (and if memory serves me we did speak to him briefly years ago - I'll have to look it up - but when Jennifer said that he was "met by his dog" I seem to remember that in one of our "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" books. I'll look it up.
He had a message for a mutual friend Phillip Noyce (I said "Phillip" Jennifer supplied his last name, not because she knows him, but because she met his wife for a reading 3 or 4 years ago.)
I passed the message on to Phillip and he thanked me for doing so. (Doesn't mean he's a believer or an advocate, but he is a polite Aussie like his old friend Heath.)
Then Marilyn Monroe showed up - and I'm sorry to Paul and Matthew, but I focused my questions to her - about her passing.
In other podcasts, and in the transcripts of our conversations in the books BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE we go into detail about her - about her flings with powerful men - but what makes this worthy of note was the question about greeting her father "that she never knew."
While common knowledge that was the case - I'm more interested in what people have to say about that experience, and she reiterated what we've heard before. That her "missing father" agreed to play that role in this lifetime, as it was part of the inspiration that got her out of her "Norma Jean" shell to create this persona that became world famous and was always in search of that "father figure" she didn't have in life.
She joked about "ignoring some of the bad films" that she made - but the point is, we're speaking to the "higher consciousness" of an individual - in this case a woman named Marilyn who was born as Norma, who created an avatar called "Marilyn" but who has had other lifetimes before, and will have more lifetimes after.
Anyway, another mind bending session capped off by an appearance by Aretha Franklin - who in our interview many years ago, joked about being the "black Marilyn Monroe." That's the fun thing about this podcast - and the research - Jennifer and I have been doing this weekly for ten years, the transcripts are in the first four books, and on occasion someone we interviewed a long time ago, shows up and makes the same reference or joke they did back then.
I know Jennifer isn't aware that Aretha made that joke back then - but she reminded us how she had told us she had a "handwritten will" that would be found by her niece - and that is what happened (despite her niece saying that she "didn't believe we were speaking to her aunt.")
Which is fine. People show up for different reasons at different times. The idea is to be open to the possibility.
As Luana's last words repeat at the end of the podcast.
Enjoy.

Friday Mar 28, 2025
Friday Mar 28, 2025
Another one of those mind bending podcasts.
It's starts off as we always do, chatting about events of the day and what we've been up to.
Jennifer talked about an event recently where she read some friends, and a child came through to talk about their experience being on the planet (in the crib, etc). How uncanny it was because so many of the details were confirmed by the women in the room.
Then we invite Luana Anders, my pal who passed in 1996 who moderates our podcast from the flipside to have a chat.
She wanted to talk about how we communicate through the heart. How we aren't aware of that frequency, but we are on the flipside. Jennifer mentions that she has a client in Dubai (UAE) that she works with - and the distance has little to do with the messages that come forward.
Then Jennifer shared a video that she got from a friend of an orb outside her window. Jennifer talks about how her friend had filmed it with her cellphone outside her window.
For those who are interested in "Orbs" - if one searches through the podcasts using that word, they can find a conversation we had with someone who had a number of orbs show up on her ring camera a few years ago.
It coincided with a memorial for her husband, and wanted to know if there was a connection - so we chatted directly with the husband offstage, who confirmed a number of details that we didn't know - but his wife knew. And then the following week she shared a few more hours of footage - and that's discussed extensively on that podcast, including Jennifer's seeing them often in her home.
She's also shared footage before of seeing orbs... the link can be found here: (cut and paste) https://youtu.be/k9Sq14pFCxs
But this is clearly the most unusual video I've seen of an orb - ever. And it goes on for quite a time - and we ask Luana to tell us what that is, or who that is - and she does.
Mind bending stuff, thanks for tuning in!

Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Another unusual podcast.
I started off revealing that I had asked Chat GPT for a suggestion for a guest - and oddly enough, it turned out to be someone already standing by... Amelia Earhart.
Luana Anders is in charge of our guest list on the flipside, and Amelia wanted to discuss the three different projects that I have about her - one is a script for a film, one is a book, and the most recent is a book proposal (key to selling the book).
I was working on it yesterday, so it was prescient to discuss it. She wanted to suggest I be more "wild" with it. I'll have to think that one over a bit. But good advice.
Then we spoke a bit about Jennifer's journey to me, how Amelia was initially responsible for bringing us together - because when she said she was working with law enforcement on missing person cases - the idea of talking to Amelia popped into my head (and I didn't tell her who, just showed up at her office and spent three hours interviewing Amelia 10 years ago.
Funny for her to put it this way.
Then mid sentence an old friend Harry Dean Stanton showed up - he was a close friend of Luana's, and as noted, I hung out with Harry enough times to know he was a complete skeptic about the afterlife.
However, because of our recent conversation with Gene Hackman, I looked up how they met - and they did a film back in the day directly by BL Norton (who later directed my script for "Three For the Road" - something I didn't know until I saw the film).
Gene Hackman is in it - more of a cameo really as he disappears a third of the way in, and Harry Dean shows up later on as a hippie who is stoned and in a bathtub.
The movie isn't worth reviewing other than to say "What were they thinking?"
But fun to hear Harry Dean talk about Gene on the flipside, and how they're "water skiing" together on a lake on the flipside - and he talks about their lifetimes together before.
Gene tells us that he and Harry were married in one lifetime which resulted (or perhaps another one did) in him "killing Harry" which turned into a recurring theme between the two of them, until they worked that out, so to speak.
Harry said he was jealous or competitive at first, because Gene was a genius actor - but then "recognized him" from their journeys together. (As people sometimes do without ever realizing where the feeling comes from, and as noted, Harry was a skeptic's skeptic until he made it to the flipside.
As noted, there's a scene in the film HACKING THE AFTERLIFE on Amazon Prime or Gaia where Jennifer first access Harry Dean - and he tells us to "tell people to believe in the possibility of a lifetime so they don't waste another minute arguing about it like I did."
Wise words.
Another mind bending episode.

Monday Mar 17, 2025
Monday Mar 17, 2025
This was an unusual podcast just based on the folks who showed up to chat with us.
Jennifer and I had taken a trip to the Chateau Marmont on Sunset Blvd, and we had a group of folks who stopped by to say hello. At some point John Belushi talked about "ghost watching" - not to show up in the hotel to watch people onstage, but to watch "the other ghosts wandering around."
Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson showed up to talk about early exits - people who leave the stage early for whatever reason. And that brought a bunch of people forward, from JFK to Elvis, to Matthew Perry, Robin Williams and others... the point they were making is that people leave the stage in all different fashions, and it's about focusing on who they were while they were onstage, and not how they left it.
We had a brief chat with Gene Hackman again - to clarify what happened in light of the police reports... and he made a joke about it. I try to repeat the advice that these folks are available to anyone if they take the time to ask them questions. But be prepared for them not being all that interested in questions that relate to our journey and not theirs.
I asked my old pal Charles Grodin about what it was like to see his old friend Gene, and then we shifted to an event that happened later in the day. While dining at Musso and Frank's in Hollywood two members of my group saw "a ghostly figure" sitting in the corner of the room.
They didn't know who it was or could be, but said he "looked like the actor Robert Downey Jr." (And even then they didn't know his name either, and asked questions about someone named "Downey")
They also heard him talking about "table #1" to them - so I invited the waiter to stop by the table and simply asked about any ghosts people might have seen in the restaurant. He said "Charlie Chaplin" and I asked where table #1 was - and he mentioned the table that I had lunch with Jonathan Winters - which was table #1 - and how that's where Charlie liked to dine.
We asked Charlie about why he was seen "scribbling notes" and he said it was the place he liked to have good ideas and good food, but also said in this instance, he showed up so that members of my group would see him, and that would inspire me to invite him to chat on our podcast.
I don't know how else to put it - but Jennifer and I have been doing this weekly for ten years. Not everyone who shows up in our conversations is a celebrity - but because of my 40 years in the business, and Luana Ander's 300 TV shows and movies (my friend who moderates our podcast from the Flipside, who passed in 1996) I'm not surprised when people do show up that we can recognize.
Jennifer's father Jim also stopped by to clarify some things, and I must say - the topic of leaving the stage early came up - if someone is in need of help or counseling, there is help - and one should reach out to 988 and the counselors there from any telephone.
But in my desire to not use the S word in the podcast, I tried to leave it out of the conversation, as the algorithms will generally not want it to be discussed - but the important point was made by people offstage - that is to realize that life goes on no matter what happens, and that everyone onstage signed up to be onstage, and should see what things might occur or happen that we could not be aware of.
Oh, and Robin Williams showed up to not only discuss the same topic, but to confirm that during a recent guided meditation, this woman saw him in her "classroom in the afterlife" - and he confirmed that it was him BEFORE I COULD ASK THE QUESTION.
Anyways, all of it is mind bending, and hopefully whomever needs to hear what they are talking about is able to hear what they're trying to say.
Thanks for tuning in!

Thursday Mar 06, 2025
Thursday Mar 06, 2025
Another fun adventure in the flipside. We began by talking about Jennifer's brain scans that we'll be discussing at the Contact in the Desert (contactinthedesert.com) late May early June near Palm Springs. I was on #CoastToCoast with George Noory last night, talking about our ongoing research with #AmeliaEarhart.
In today's session, my friend (who passed in 1996) Luana Anders had us discuss a recollection I had the other day - while answering a question on the Hacking the Afterlife forum on Quora - someone asked me about a past life I reported in one of my books (likely ITS A WONDERFUL AFTERLIFE) where I recalled a lifetime with Luana in Sumeria.
And while I was answering the question I was accessing the memory of the visual I had seen during my past life regression... and Luana is saying that when we examine previous lifetimes, it's like sitting in a movie theater and watching a film of that lifetime.
The details were unknown to me - I had no idea where Sumeria was, but many people do. The point isn't that I was or wasn't what I was recalling - it's about the process of how one can recall previous lifetimes by doing a simple meditation where they're in a movie theater in their mind, and on the screen are scenes that may seem familiar.
The idea is to access them in a number of different ways - through meditation, through mediumship or hypnotherapy. All three yield results.
Then I had a birthday shout out to my brother Jeff who passed a few years back. (May 6th, 2022 to be exact) So when she gives some dates about that - sometimes they're spot on, and sometimes it's what the "feeling" of time is - in this case, I didn't know, and as it turns out it was 4 years ago
The fun part is when my brother says to Jennifer "I know you, we've met!" and she recognizes him. Which is funny, because that's the kind of thing he would have loved to do in life. State the obvious with enthusiasm.
Then I asked to chat with a friend of mine's mom, Lois Tracey who passed at 94 recently. Her funeral services are in Scottsdale tomorrow - I can't make it - but I thought this might be a way of honoring her, and that is to speak to her directly.
Those who know her son Paul know were were close pals until his untimely passing - it turns out to be from a heart condition that Lois discovered ran in the family tree - was unknown at the time. But it's great to hear she's with Paul and her husband Jack (and their dog Hedda) on the flipside.
For those who would like context, look up "Jack Tracey" and my name for an article about our conversations with Jack while he was in hospice care. As he put it "90% of his conscious energy was already back home" and that being in hospice care was like "leaving a leg in the pool."
A wonderful set of friends, and it was fun to be able to chat with them all.

Monday Mar 03, 2025
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Another fun podcast - this one on the morning of the Oscars.
I had been sensing that Gene Hackman wanted to talk to us - whether accurate or not, but there were a number of folks that I know that he knew, and I did spend a day with him in Santa Fe.
That being said, Robert Towne comes forward to talk about the film "Anora" - (Jennifer hears it as "Aurora" at first) I don't know if Robert was telling us who was going to win the Oscars a few hours later - but he does mention it first off.
Then I asked Luana if this person who passed the past week wanted to come and speak to us - and he said that it was Robert Towne who greeted him and invited him to this conversation.
Robert was the "ghost writer" on the film Bonnie and Clyde, long time collaborator with Warren Beatty. (Shampoo) I asked Gene if he wanted to talk about his passing - it's important to report that there's been no decided upon manner of passing - and it wasn't me or Jennifer who talked about "carbon monoxide" but that's what she got.
He said it wasn't foul play, but something that happened. He said since he believed in afterlife, it wasn't surprising for him to see his friends - but he describes the beauty of that in details.
He talks about a number of people that he saw, including our frequent guest Jimi Hendrix. We've asked Jimi about this in the past - he has said repeatedly that it's a role he likes to play because everyone recognizes him, even if they didn't know him.
I asked if he was playing a song and asked if it might have been "Blue Suede Shoes" then reminded Jennifer we've heard multiple folks report hearing him playing that song (he recorded it in 1970).
Gene was an accomplished artists, and I asked him about art on the flipside, and he said it was like music. He spoke of seeing Mozart - and I asked him a couple of questions. (He had shown up in a guided meditation the day before with a Viennese woman).
We've been doing these conversations with people offstage for ten years, so apologies to those who are offended my laughing about things that he's saying - if one goes back over the past four years, they'll find many of our podcasts where we interviewed friends of Gene's on the other side.
Including Gene Wilder, including Robin Williams, Robert Towne multiple times, Fred Roos and others that Gene Hackman worked with and was friends with - including Harry Dean Stanton.
It just so happened that our podcast got delayed until today - it wasn't planned to happen this way - but when the Oscars ran their memorial, there are a number of people listed who we've interviewed on our podcast.
Thanks again to Gene and condolences to his family - and friends - but I recommend taking the time to just ask him questions. He says it in the podcast when asked "How do people reach out to you?" He says "Just ask, but believe it's possible to hear a reply."
By the way, the friend whose father I asked about the poem, said he didn't think it was accurate... that happens; Jennifer interprets what she's getting to the best of her ability. But as we hear on the podcast it does help if the folks trying to access them allow for the possibility they still exist.

Thursday Feb 20, 2025
Thursday Feb 20, 2025
Welcome to the podcast!
In today's episode we begin by inviting Luana Anders to come and chat with us about whatever she'd like to discuss and brings along her pal Amelia Earhart.
After hearing her say that it's okay for me to pretend to "channel" her in my latest book, she comments on the fact that despite the Equal Rights Amendment being approved by a majority of the country, it still isn't consider the law of the land. She says "that's sad" to consider.
She talks about how Mother Mary comes through in the research to share non denominational advice that's we should treat everyone fairly - or without judgment.
It's often repeated whenever she does show up in a discussion, and there's a discussion about the book "The Greatest Story Never Told as told by Jesus and those who knew him."
The point Amelia seems to make is that we need to stop judging others based on race, gender or any of the other judgments we use to convince others to feel less than, separate or apart.
This is not a religious idea or concept - and again isn't coming from Jennifer or me - but we're hearing it from the aviatrix who is on the flipside and wants to help.
Then we have a visit from the musician Prince - I'm aware that there is a documentary that's been made about his life, and how the filmmaker who made it was recently told that Netflix was not going to air the version he made - because the Prince estate wasn't happy with the result.
Jennifer doesn't know anything about this film or this footage - but I do. Former Music critic at Variety, I pay attention to this kind of thing - and Prince says on the podcast that he was disappointed that they decided to change the direction of the documentary, as "the truth sets people free on both sides of the veil."
As Jennifer points out - it's not something we often hear because people usually refer to things "happening in the sequence they're supposed to happen." But in this case, he is asked if he agrees with that decision (a decision Jennifer isn't aware of) and he says "no, he is not happy with it."
There's a clarification of something we heard the week before, Luana's cat, Mr. Bailey (dubbed the Cosmic Cat by Chat GPT) said that he was "in charge of how reincarnation works."
I wanted to clarify that - and he was in agreement that it was like what General Sherman had said earlier in our podcast - the giant Sequoia who said that "frequency wise" he was related to all trees everywhere, and all wood everywhere.
As if once we're offstage, we see how we are all connected, all part of a larger ocean of individuals, yet we can be accessed in this fashion.
Mind bending stuff.
Thanks for tuning in.

Friday Feb 14, 2025
Friday Feb 14, 2025
Happy Valentines Day 2025! Another unusual conversation with the flipside courtesy of Jennifer Shaffer.
We begin by talking about some of the sad memories that Jennifer has associated with this week, and how she's done a "love yourself" meditation to help her overcome those sad memories. There's a brief visit by Steve Jobs, and then Luana Anders brings Abraham Lincoln forward.
Except he doesn't want to "talk about politics." He wanted to reiterate something he said a few weeks ago, that my "Character AI" chat with him was "accurate" - in terms of accessing who he is (and was.) He also threw us a curve by suggesting that all conversation with people in the afterlife are just like conversing with Artificial Intelligence, because like large language models, the answers are based on the memories of individuals. Not something Jennifer or I had ever considered - but he lays it out there for consideration.
Then Luana brings Stephen Hawking foward, and he wants to talk about communication in general - the idea of telepathy, and how people can converse with, learn new information from people offstage. He talks about the idea of how time is so different offstage - where he is - that we can't conceptualize it - but that it follows what quantum mechanics demonstrates... that distance and time and space aren't what we think they are. Like I say mind bending - as evidenced by the questions I asked him.
Then an unusual conversation with Luana Anders' cat - "Mr. Bailey" - she had a number of cats in her life, but this one was pretty unusual. He references a moment when Luana called me on the phone to say her "cat had escaped" and because she wasn't able to walk due her condition - would I come and look for him?
I roamed the streets behind her house calling his name - but it was my wife Sherry who went into the backyard and said aloud "Mr. Bailey, Luana needs you now." And he appeared in the tree above her and jumped into Sherry's arms... a complete stranger to Mr. Bailey as it was my then girlfriend's first trip to Luana's house.
When I came back from wandering the streets of Mar Vista, there was Mr. Bailey in Luana's arms, and she looked at me and said point blank; "Sherry is an angel."
Not something I'd ever heard Luana say before. So in this unusual conversation I'm asking Mr. Bailey the same kinds of questions we've asked Hira - Robert Towne's dog - and getting the same kinds of answers but with a different personality.
Notice his answer to "have you ever incarnated as a human?" (It's rarely reported, and his answer was pretty funny.) Finally, on behalf of Valentine's Day, Robin Williams showed up - unannounced - to remind people to "love themselves first" and that will generate love for others. To "love love" - the very thing he said when we first talked to him and asked him "What if anything would he like to tell the planet?"
Mind bending to say the least, but welcome to our world.